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2006-03-24[PATCH] sys_setrlimit() cleanupAndrew Morton
- Whitespace cleanups - Make that expression comprehensible. There's a potential logic change here: we do the "is it_prof_expires equal to zero" test after converting it to seconds, rather than doing the comparison between raw cputime_t's. But given that it's in units of seconds anyway, that shouldn't change anything. Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com> Cc: Ulrich Weigand <uweigand@de.ibm.com> Cc: Cliff Wickman <cpw@sgi.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-03-23[PATCH] sem2mutex: ttyIngo Molnar
Semaphore to mutex conversion. The conversion was generated via scripts, and the result was validated automatically via a script as well. Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-03-23[PATCH] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single threadedprocess at ↵Ravikiran G Thirumalai
getrusage() Avoid taking the global tasklist_lock when possible, if a process is single threaded during getrusage(). Any avoidance of tasklist_lock is good for NUMA boxes (and possibly for large SMPs). Thanks to Oleg Nesterov for review and suggestions. Signed-off-by: Nippun Goel <nippung@calsoftinc.com> Signed-off-by: Ravikiran Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org> Signed-off-by: Shai Fultheim <shai@scalex86.org> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-02-07[PATCH] kernel/sys.c NULL noise removalAl Viro
Signed-off-by: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
2006-01-24[ACPI] merge 3549 4320 4485 4588 4980 5483 5651 acpica asus fops pnpacpi ↵Len Brown
branches into release Signed-off-by: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
2006-01-11[PATCH] move capable() to capability.hRandy.Dunlap
- Move capable() from sched.h to capability.h; - Use <linux/capability.h> where capable() is used (in include/, block/, ipc/, kernel/, a few drivers/, mm/, security/, & sound/; many more drivers/ to go) Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-11[PATCH] uninline capable()Ingo Molnar
Uninline capable(). Saves 2K of kernel text on a generic .config, and 1K on a tiny config. In addition it makes the use of capable more consistent between CONFIG_SECURITY and !CONFIG_SECURITY Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-08[PATCH] simplify k_getrusage()Oleg Nesterov
Factor out common code for different RUSAGE_xxx cases. Don't take ->sighand->siglock in RUSAGE_SELF case, suggested by Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>. Signed-off-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-08[PATCH] setpgid: should not accept ptraced childsOleg Nesterov
sys_setpgid() allows to change ->pgrp of ptraced childs. 'man setpgid' does not tell anything about that, so I consider this behaviour is a bug. Signed-off-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu> Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-08[PATCH] setpgid: should work for sub-threadsOren Laadan
setsid() does not work unless the calling process is a thread_group_leader(). 'man setpgid' does not tell anything about that, so I consider this behaviour is a bug. Signed-off-by: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu> Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-08[PATCH] setpgid: should work for sub-threadsOleg Nesterov
setpgid(0, pgid) or setpgid(forked_child_pid, pgid) does not work unless the calling process is a thread_group_leader(). 'man setpgid' does not tell anything about that, so I consider this behaviour is a bug. Signed-off-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu> Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-08[PATCH] Don't attempt to power off if power off is not implementedEric W. Biederman
The problem. It is expected that /sbin/halt -p works exactly like /sbin/halt, when the kernel does not implement power off functionality. The kernel can do a lot of work in the reboot notifiers and in device_shutdown before we even get to machine_power_off. Some of that shutdown is not safe if you are leaving the power on, and it definitely gets in the way of using sysrq or pressing ctrl-alt-del. Since the shutdown happens in generic code there is no way to fix this in architecture specific code :( Some machines are kernel oopsing today because of this. The simple solution is to turn LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_POWER_OFF into LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_HALT if power_off functionality is not implemented. This has the unfortunate side effect of disabling the power off functionality on architectures that leave pm_power_off to null and still implement something in machine_power_off. And it will break the build on some architectures that don't have a pm_power_off variable at all. On both counts I say tough. For architectures like alpha that don't implement the pm_power_off variable pm_power_off is declared in linux/pm.h and it is a generic part of our power management code, and all architectures should implement it. For architectures like parisc that have a default power off method in machine_power_off if pm_power_off is not implemented or fails. It is easy enough to set the pm_power_off variable. And nothing bad happens there, the machines just stop powering off. The current semantics are impossible without a flag at the top level so we can avoid the problem code if a power off is not implemented. pm_power_off is as good a flag as any with the bonus that it works without modification on at least x86, x86_64, powerpc, and ppc today. Andrew can you pick this up and put this in the mm tree. Kernels that don't compile or don't power off seem saner than kernels that oops or panic. Until we get the arch specific patches for the problem architectures this probably isn't smart to push into the stable kernel. Unfortunately I don't have the time at the moment to walk through every architecture and make them work. And even if I did I couldn't test it :( From: Hirokazu Takata <takata@linux-m32r.org> Add pm_power_off() for build fix of arch/m32r/kernel/process.c. From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> UML build fix Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Hayato Fujiwara <fujiwara@linux-m32r.org> Signed-off-by: Hirokazu Takata <takata@linux-m32r.org> Signed-off-by: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-12-15[ACPI] fix reboot upon suspend-to-diskAlexey Starikovskiy
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4320 Signed-off-by: Alexey Starikovskiy <alexey.y.starikovskiy@intel.com> Acked-by: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> Signed-off-by: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
2005-12-12[PATCH] kprobes: no probes on critical pathKeshavamurthy Anil S
For Kprobes critical path is the path from debug break exception handler till the control reaches kprobes exception code. No probes can be supported in this path as we will end up in recursion. This patch prevents this by moving the below function to safe __kprobes section onto which no probes can be inserted. Signed-off-by: Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-11-10[SPARC64]: Re-export uts_sem for solaris compat module.David S. Miller
Revert: b26b9bc58263acda274f82a9dde8b6d96559878a Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-11-07[PATCH] unexport uts_semAdrian Bunk
I didn't find any possible modular usage in the kernel. Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-11-07[PATCH] kernel-docs: fix kernel-doc format problemsRandy Dunlap
Convert to proper kernel-doc format. Some have extra blank lines (not allowed immed. after the function name) or need blank lines (after all parameters). Function summary must be only one line. Colon (":") in a function description does weird things (causes kernel-doc to think that it's a new section head sadly). Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-11-07[PATCH] more kernel-doc cleanups, additionsRandy Dunlap
Various core kernel-doc cleanups: - add missing function parameters in ipc, irq/manage, kernel/sys, kernel/sysctl, and mm/slab; - move description to just above function for kernel_restart() Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-11-07[PATCH] Process Events ConnectorMatt Helsley
This patch adds a connector that reports fork, exec, id change, and exit events for all processes to userspace. It replaces the fork_advisor patch that ELSA is currently using. Applications that may find these events useful include accounting/auditing (e.g. ELSA), system activity monitoring (e.g. top), security, and resource management (e.g. CKRM). Signed-off-by: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-09-22[PATCH] reboot: comment and factor the main reboot functionsEric W. Biederman
In the lead up to 2.6.13 I fixed a large number of reboot problems by making the calling conventions consistent. Despite checking and double checking my work it appears I missed an obvious one. This first patch simply refactors the reboot routines so all of the preparation for various kinds of reboots are in their own functions. Making it very hard to get the various kinds of reboot out of sync. Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-09-17[PATCH] PR_GET_DUMPABLE returns incorrect infoMichael Kerrisk
2.6.13 incorporated Alan Cox's patch for /proc/sys/fs/suid_dumpable (one version of this patch can be found here http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109647550421014&w=2 ). This patch also made corresponding changes in kernel/sys.c to change the prctl() PR_SET_DUMPABLE operation so that the permitted range of 'arg2' was modified from 0..1 to 0..2. However, a corresponding change was not made for PR_GET_DUMPABLE: if the dumpable flag is non-zero, then PR_GET_DUMPABLE always returns 1, so that the caller can't determine the true setting of this flag. Acked-by: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-09-07[PATCH] remove a redundant variable in sys_prctl()Jesper Juhl
The patch removes a redundant variable `sig' from sys_prctl(). For some reason, when sys_prctl is called with option == PR_SET_PDEATHSIG then the value of arg2 is assigned to an int variable named sig. Then sig is tested with valid_signal() and later used to set the value of current->pdeath_signal . There is no reason to use this intermediate variable since valid_signal() takes a unsigned long argument, so it can handle being passed arg2 directly, and if the call to valid_signal is OK, then we know the value of arg2 is in the range zero to _NSIG and thus it'll easily fit in a plain int and thus there's no problem assigning it later to current->pdeath_signal (which is an int). The patch gets rid of the pointless variable `sig'. This reduces the size of kernel/sys.o in 2.6.13-rc6-mm1 by 32 bytes on my system. Patch has been compile tested, boot tested, and just to make damn sure I didn't break anything I wrote a quick test app that calls prctl(PR_SET_PDEATHSIG ...) with the entire range of values for a unsigned long, and it behaves as expected with and without the patch. Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-08-04[PATCH] Remove suspend() calls from shutdown pathBenjamin Herrenschmidt
This removes the calls to device_suspend() from the shutdown path that were added sometime during 2.6.13-rc*. They aren't working properly on a number of configs (I got reports from both ppc powerbook users and x86 users) causing the system to not shutdown anymore. I think it isn't the right approach at the moment anyway. We have already a shutdown() callback for the drivers that actually care about shutdown and the suspend() code isn't yet in a good enough shape to be so much generalized. Also, the semantics of suspend and shutdown are slightly different on a number of setups and the way this was patched in provides little way for drivers to cleanly differenciate. It should have been at least a different message. For 2.6.13, I think we should revert to 2.6.12 behaviour and have a working suspend back. Signed-off-by: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-07-29[PATCH] reboot: remove device_suspend(PMSG_FREEZE) from kernel_kexecEric W. Biederman
If device_suspend(PMSG_FREEZE) is not ready to be called in kernel_restart it is definitely not ready to be called in the even more fickle kernel_kexec. Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-07-27[PATCH] Avoid device suspend on rebootAndrew Morton
My fairly ordinary x86 test box gets stuck during reboot on the wait_for_completion() in ide_do_drive_cmd(): Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-07-26[PATCH] Add emergency_restart()Eric W. Biederman
When the kernel is working well and we want to restart cleanly kernel_restart is the function to use. But in many instances the kernel wants to reboot when thing are expected to be working very badly such as from panic or a software watchdog handler. This patch adds the function emergency_restart() so that callers can be clear what semantics they expect when calling restart. emergency_restart() is expected to be callable from interrupt context and possibly reliable in even more trying circumstances. This is an initial generic implementation for all architectures. Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-07-26[PATCH] Make ctrl_alt_del call kernel_restart to get a proper reboot.Eric W. Biederman
It is obvious we wanted to call kernel_restart here but since we don't have it the code was expanded inline and hasn't been correct since sometime in 2.4. Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-07-26[PATCH] Refactor sys_reboot into reusable partsEric W. Biederman
Because the factors of sys_reboot don't exist people calling into the reboot path duplicate the code badly, leading to inconsistent expectations of code in the reboot path. This patch should is just code motion. Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-07-26[PATCH] Add missing device_suspsend(PMSG_FREEZE) calls.Eric W. Biederman
In the recent addition of device_suspend calls into sys_reboot two code paths were missed. Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-06-25[PATCH] kexec: add kexec syscallsEric W. Biederman
This patch introduces the architecture independent implementation the sys_kexec_load, the compat_sys_kexec_load system calls. Kexec on panic support has been integrated into the core patch and is relatively clean. In addition the hopefully architecture independent option crashkernel=size@location has been docuemented. It's purpose is to reserve space for the panic kernel to live, and where no DMA transfer will ever be setup to access. Signed-off-by: Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> Signed-off-by: Alexander Nyberg <alexn@telia.com> Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> Signed-off-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-06-25[PATCH] properly stop devices before poweroffPavel Machek
Without this patch, Linux provokes emergency disk shutdowns and similar nastiness. It was in SuSE kernels for some time, IIRC. Signed-off-by: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-06-24[PATCH] Keys: Make request-key create an authorisation keyDavid Howells
The attached patch makes the following changes: (1) There's a new special key type called ".request_key_auth". This is an authorisation key for when one process requests a key and another process is started to construct it. This type of key cannot be created by the user; nor can it be requested by kernel services. Authorisation keys hold two references: (a) Each refers to a key being constructed. When the key being constructed is instantiated the authorisation key is revoked, rendering it of no further use. (b) The "authorising process". This is either: (i) the process that called request_key(), or: (ii) if the process that called request_key() itself had an authorisation key in its session keyring, then the authorising process referred to by that authorisation key will also be referred to by the new authorisation key. This means that the process that initiated a chain of key requests will authorise the lot of them, and will, by default, wind up with the keys obtained from them in its keyrings. (2) request_key() creates an authorisation key which is then passed to /sbin/request-key in as part of a new session keyring. (3) When request_key() is searching for a key to hand back to the caller, if it comes across an authorisation key in the session keyring of the calling process, it will also search the keyrings of the process specified therein and it will use the specified process's credentials (fsuid, fsgid, groups) to do that rather than the calling process's credentials. This allows a process started by /sbin/request-key to find keys belonging to the authorising process. (4) A key can be read, even if the process executing KEYCTL_READ doesn't have direct read or search permission if that key is contained within the keyrings of a process specified by an authorisation key found within the calling process's session keyring, and is searchable using the credentials of the authorising process. This allows a process started by /sbin/request-key to read keys belonging to the authorising process. (5) The magic KEY_SPEC_*_KEYRING key IDs when passed to KEYCTL_INSTANTIATE or KEYCTL_NEGATE will specify a keyring of the authorising process, rather than the process doing the instantiation. (6) One of the process keyrings can be nominated as the default to which request_key() should attach new keys if not otherwise specified. This is done with KEYCTL_SET_REQKEY_KEYRING and one of the KEY_REQKEY_DEFL_* constants. The current setting can also be read using this call. (7) request_key() is partially interruptible. If it is waiting for another process to finish constructing a key, it can be interrupted. This permits a request-key cycle to be broken without recourse to rebooting. Signed-Off-By: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> Signed-Off-By: Benoit Boissinot <benoit.boissinot@ens-lyon.org> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-06-23[PATCH] Optimize sys_times for a single thread processChristoph Lameter
Avoid taking the tasklist_lock in sys_times if the process is single threaded. In a NUMA system taking the tasklist_lock may cause a bouncing cacheline if multiple independent processes continually call sys_times to measure their performance. Signed-off-by: Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com> Signed-off-by: Shai Fultheim <shai@scalex86.org> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-06-23[PATCH] setuid core dumpAlan Cox
Add a new `suid_dumpable' sysctl: This value can be used to query and set the core dump mode for setuid or otherwise protected/tainted binaries. The modes are 0 - (default) - traditional behaviour. Any process which has changed privilege levels or is execute only will not be dumped 1 - (debug) - all processes dump core when possible. The core dump is owned by the current user and no security is applied. This is intended for system debugging situations only. Ptrace is unchecked. 2 - (suidsafe) - any binary which normally would not be dumped is dumped readable by root only. This allows the end user to remove such a dump but not access it directly. For security reasons core dumps in this mode will not overwrite one another or other files. This mode is appropriate when adminstrators are attempting to debug problems in a normal environment. (akpm: > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(suid_dumpable); > > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL? No problem to me. > > if (current->euid == current->uid && current->egid == current->gid) > > current->mm->dumpable = 1; > > Should this be SUID_DUMP_USER? Actually the feedback I had from last time was that the SUID_ defines should go because its clearer to follow the numbers. They can go everywhere (and there are lots of places where dumpable is tested/used as a bool in untouched code) > Maybe this should be renamed to `dump_policy' or something. Doing that > would help us catch any code which isn't using the #defines, too. Fair comment. The patch was designed to be easy to maintain for Red Hat rather than for merging. Changing that field would create a gigantic diff because it is used all over the place. ) Signed-off-by: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-05-05[PATCH] correctly name the Shell sortDomen Puncer
As per http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/shellsort.html, this should be referred to as a Shell sort. Shell-Metzner is a misnomer. Signed-off-by: Daniel Dickman <didickman@yahoo.com> Signed-off-by: Domen Puncer <domen@coderock.org> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-05-01[PATCH] convert that currently tests _NSIG directly to use valid_signal()Jesper Juhl
Convert most of the current code that uses _NSIG directly to instead use valid_signal(). This avoids gcc -W warnings and off-by-one errors. Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@dif.dk> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-05-01[PATCH] nice and rt-prio rlimitsMatt Mackall
Add a pair of rlimits for allowing non-root tasks to raise nice and rt priorities. Defaults to traditional behavior. Originally written by Chris Wright. The patch implements a simple rlimit ceiling for the RT (and nice) priorities a task can set. The rlimit defaults to 0, meaning no change in behavior by default. A value of 50 means RT priority levels 1-50 are allowed. A value of 100 means all 99 privilege levels from 1 to 99 are allowed. CAP_SYS_NICE is blanket permission. (akpm: see http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0503.1/1921.html for tips on integrating this with PAM). Signed-off-by: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-05-01[PATCH] use smp_mb/wmb/rmb where possibleakpm@osdl.org
Replace a number of memory barriers with smp_ variants. This means we won't take the unnecessary hit on UP machines. Signed-off-by: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-04-16Linux-2.6.12-rc2Linus Torvalds
Initial git repository build. I'm not bothering with the full history, even though we have it. We can create a separate "historical" git archive of that later if we want to, and in the meantime it's about 3.2GB when imported into git - space that would just make the early git days unnecessarily complicated, when we don't have a lot of good infrastructure for it. Let it rip!